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OK Lets deal with Currency, Banking and Guru confusion. Sam Elliot is on board with the T Shirts. ] Forex is a special business. A few bucks is one thing, but in Millions it needs professional handling.
Many seem to be clutching these notes, without Banks able to handle such Forex Exchanges. So, when they approach a smaller State Bank with what appears to them to be Jungle Bunny ,paper, confusion will rule.
1.See if they have a Major Correspondent Bank able to handle them for you – Ask.
2. If not, and for most who do not have major accounts, you will need to open an account with a major. You cant walk in off the street with millions, no track record and no provenance of such notes. Sitting there with a dumb * look when the questions start will keep Sam Elliot busy for months.
So please, if you have done no homework or created a brief overview of the audit trail to have the bankers, wear the T Shirt when they ask – What can we do for you?, and what creeps out is – Aaahhh wannt Maah lick. Lol
3. Such amounts will need to show how obtained and legal rights, plus be counterfeit tested and checked. They will also run Criminal Record checks on you as part of standard Money Laundering protocols.Otherwise the bank gets censured.
4. Such clearing banks will charge their fees and most will seek to give you a Cashiers Draft, or wire transfer for you to your own bank. Make sure your own Bank is aware ahead of what is coming and has full paperwork with history etc.
5. A market will form fast and fill fast. Once Vietnam meets its needs quota, Tail End Charlies will get the scraps.
6. Dinars are such a complete Pigs Breakfast of Fraud, there is no point in guessing. There is likely to be a special deal for the Tier Ones and God knows for the rest. A country who needs at best $5T will never be able to absorb or pay for the multi hundred Ts rumoured.
So of course a new currency will follow fast and the rest God knows. But the Gurus have all the answers.Custer is coming from Disneyland and Alice from Wonderland will feed out Trillions.
But only to those wearing the Sam Elliot T Shirts. A Special kind of Stupid.
Seriously to help, YOU must understand the Banking protocols, needs and moves. Walking into a bank with a bunch of notes and a dumb look wailing, AAAh want Maaah money will result in the notes being seized, you being questioned and all sorts of consequences.
Once the PPs move, there will be a window to grab the crumbs. The Lull before the storm. Get in and get the hell out once we do advise you to move, because when 10,000 hairy chinned, vacant expression, part toothless versions of skanky Bigfoots start to hit the Banks with hands outstretched, chaos will start.
Even worse when their husbands wake up later and come next in Cover Alls and 6 weeks old shirts to look smart for Maah visit to de Bank . Wakkie Backie and all. Those Dinar Sellers were ruthless. Aaahm gonna make me a Billionaire. The Sella Fella promised. Its maah right.
Markets are and will be finite. They all have limited capacities. Be safe, get in, get out- fast once flagged.
Start getting ready. Iran laughed its head off printing Dinars with Saddam’s plates, smuggling them over the border and exchanging for Billions in Baghdad as a huge easy earner for months until the dumb Yanks woke up and stopped it fast. Nice one Iran. Smart guys.
They scalped the US, then the Agencies piled in and used it as an easy earner to sell to the Plebs. What a line of victims. It will end in tears for many. Aaah was Promised. Boo hoo. Aaaahm special. Yep, and Sam has a T shirt for you.
So, forgive the humour, here we know your literate. so be ready, beat the queue , get organised and get out.
Just get your records ready, work out which 2 Banks you will need an account with if yours cant exchange, so if one declines you try the next, get 2 references on yourself and have 2 examples of billing to your address via State Taxes,.Telephones, Water Bills etc. A passport if you have one or a current ID card. All KYC aids to clear you. Start now.
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whitehatauxiliaries says: This is a good article, with good advice.
Just follow the guidelines and move promptly when we get the nod, and we should be ahead of the vaunted Honey Boo Boo dinar holders by a wide margin.
The finite financial resources will obviously have an impact on the available rates at the beginning, the middle and ending exchange time-lines, if I understand this information correctly.
So, be organized, bathe regularly, have your credentials and currency ready and don’t use the words “maaaah” and “lick” in the same sentence, and you will be fine.
Once we see the green light, we will open a thread for those of you who processed through to report your experiences.
No personal details need be revealed. Just describe how it went, what you experienced and if you saw any Winnebagos in the parking lot, or slipped on any backie juice in the lobby. This might help those of you who might get a late start due to family matters or work commitments.
Now, we simply wait and maintain readiness.
Ben says: Great humor and good advice…LOL
LP says: OWoN: Alice from Wonderland, fine, but ah been ta Disneyland and Custer ain’t even in Disneyland. Ferthermore, just cuz a Bigfoot may be toothless don’t mean he’s necessarily barefoot.
Iceman says: Tony. I opened a regular checking acct. With chase is that fine?
whitehatauxiliaries says: In general terms of being with a top fed chartered bank, yes. You should be good to go as they are one of the big ones.
J7 says: OWoN says, “Markets are and will be finite. They all have limited capacities. Be safe, get in, get out- fast once flagged. Start getting ready”.
“So, forgive the humour, here we know your literate. so be ready, beat the queue , get organised and get out.”
If someone could shed some light on what he means by `get out`. Does he mean get out of your house fast and get to the Bank? OR once you exchange, get your funds out of the Bank and get out of harms way. TIA
whitehatauxiliaries says: He means to exit your currencies positions as soon as possible.
Don’t do what TNT Tony is saying……. and hold onto it all and “wait for the first mouse to get clobbered” and all that Who Moved My Cheese bullshit he promotes.
Charlie says: Best, most informative piece of information from Mr. OWoN. Many thanks. He is currently levitating above Sam Elliot and beside Tony. Where in the world did “Maah lick” originate from – funny as **? Peace and strength, Charlie
whitehatauxiliaries says: You know, I don’t know where that comes from. I have traveled all over the south and in backwoods areas too, but never heard that one.
Ben says: Sounds a bit British…no offense
LP says: Cowboy movies seen in England– “getchur licks in”
whitehatauxiliaries says: Here is some further information we received to share with you, from the top:
Keep in mind that so many attempts to hammer home the realities of how this will probably go down for many is not because they are not expecting it. Why spend so much time trying to prep our readers if this was all a long shot?
WHA readers are very fortunate to have the information we are given. Please take it and prepare. After all, you don’t want to be thought of as this guy, do you? maahlick
1. Forex for Currencies as are discussed will be major banks only.
2. Because the Dong pool is finite, and Dinars may be multi-tier with differing rates, expect it to be messy and with a few periods of markets suspended as rules evolve and the truth of just how much shit was printed becomes clear.
3. Because Dinars will get tagged as dubious Provenance, most banks will be wary of such papers, or source of such funds. Changing bogus papers has issues and may involve trade recalls if later challenged. Morons won’t get it.
4. What we are saying is that IF your current Bank can’t trade out for you and you don’t have a second major account, how do you think you will exit?
Few Law firms will help nowadays as Bar Councils restrict risks of handling such client funds for good reasons. Are they too dim, too stupid, to open a major account? Watching many blogs – Yes!
5. So having bought such papers, way out their league, IF, a few get on Dongs etc thanks to both sites, then providing they have a good relationship with an existing Bank, which many still don’t, then with good supporting bank cleared documents, most should be able to get them transferred in.
6. But so many of these Grunts don’t even have that. All too many are the lowest of the Peon line, and bank compliance will not sign off for many. Any smell of a flea ridden carcass walking in wanting to park mega bucks will set off alarms. Zero to Hero is no longer a good thing. It frightens banks.
Stupid people suddenly walking in with big bucks raises questions. How does a Boggie eating grunt from Palookerville justify his fortune from Dinars stolen from Iraq? Hello?
What was your background trading with Iraq? You bought what from a guy in the Pub, or from a web site? Where is the clear and clean bank histories?
7. We see mess, on mess, on mess waiting here.
8. 25 years ago you could walk $5M in cash to a bank and be a hero. Try $500K today and your in a cell. $500K then could be used and carried. Try that today. If it’s not a bank wire transfer, it smells.
These $500K notes will be asking for trouble. Banks just ARE going to freeze and seize a lot if it’s not handled right. How do you explain why you are handling stolen, trafficked or bogus printed notes? None are trade related and all have warts and hairs.
Most are so busy spending fantasy money they are simply too unsophisticated to see the layers of minefields waiting. What tax cleared funds the banks will ask? Expect a lot to be seized.
Too many seriously thick retards don’t get the system does not profile for them. Nor are many trying to shape up. Rodeo rides are waiting for some.
HIW says: If the $500K dong notes have hair or are counterfeit, then I have an issue with my private bank that ordered them for me, debited my account, made me fill out all kinds of forms for DHS and FINRA, counted them, hand delivered them to me and then gave me receipts specifying how many of each were in each order.
They cost $25 for crying out loud. We are talking receipts for a few thousand dollars. You aren’t walking in with a suitcase full of $1000’s. The banks will know the currency revalued and wasn’t worth diddly before.
If these banks call these $500K notes fraudulent, then the system is still just as criminal as it ever was and none of it is going to matter anyway.
And years of banking with a branch is not going to help you if you only had a few thousand dollars and it jumps to 4 million. How is that relationship going to matter? It still would be questionable.
Probably more so than opening a brand new account with receipts for your currency. You are still going to need documentation. BTW, Chase told me today that they can open a new account with foreign currency.
Gazza says: Yes, excellent points. I’m no expert at a on this, but all tgis talk of relationships and illegal notes sounds mad to me.
My notes are clearly real from a legal seller and before the rv they are worth toilet paper. After the rv they cannot suddenly become suspicious because they went from toilet paper to valuable. The ** thing never physically changed overnight did it?? Only the value of it changed.
And yes if my bank has dealt with ny account for a while now that wont make squat difference if a sudden large lump sum goes in. They will suspend it and contact me and ask for details…. fine, I got nothing to hide here.
Owon’s advice doesn’t sound like any bank or banking issue I’ve ever dealt with in my life. Banks don’t work that way in my experience. Perhaps owon and us little people are talking cross purposes here???
whitehatauxiliaries says: Perhaps the confusion that will result after the increased value thrust upon a high denomination note is what we are facing here. Right now, a common man walking into a bank with a 500K dong note is wielding a low-ball ticket to nothing but the price of a cock fight in Manilla.
After, and let’s say that 500K note has the balls of even .47 per dong, it’s a different story…..now, it becomes hairy because the person holding it has to now pass a higher standard of “who are you with all this steam? The value here says we can ask you to bend over so we can look. So, bend over, or that note is suspect.”
Do you get the idea here? It’s not the bloody paper that is hairy, it’s the potential it has to get you a high exchange rate, and thus put you into the cross hairs of compliance that rates the man walking off the street, with such value, as a low species of hoi polloi that has to prove he is not.
You have your note in hand. Just be prepared to prove you are a good bloke, and that may ease your anxiety, which radiates like Little Boy on August 6, 1945.
You wanted to take your shot, well, now we will see just what you will walk away with when the bell rings and you get a head start ahead of the cheese movers.
May the dongs bring you what you seek – in a glorious bountiful burst.
naturalized citizen says: “Jim Willie: If Deutsche Bank Goes Under It Will be Lehman Times Five! ”
Please listen to Jim Willie who said if/when Deutsche Bank goes so will Barclay and JP Morgan Chase.
Their derivative exposure is too big (much more than the annual US GDP) in that it is going to trigger a contagion as they try to save themselves by merging with other banking institutions that may be more solvent.
Things are getting very tough, all thanks to the crocks in the corporate giants as well as the crocks in the government, both in the US and the EU. Willie often goes in to the definition of the term “fascism”, and we are living in one side of the Atlantic.
By far DC, NY Chicago and Langley, VA are heavily populated by the Satan worshipers and their puppets that brought this country to this state while the majority lived as if they were kings and queens, chasing bigger and better whatever material possessions imaginable.
It sounds like Chase needs the millions from the Dong holders to add liquidity to their day to day survival. If they are willing to exchange the dong, the money has to be transferred to other more solvent banks very quickly. This is the challenge we are living with, and it is only going to get harder from here on.
Nobody is going to hold our hands to guide us through the maze; we are all on our own to spot the deep ditches we may not be able to get ourselves out from.
We are fortunate to have found WH, WHA and OWoN, and we need to rely on ourselves as the compass as we are given more helpful information. People have been living this way in other parts of the world; now it is our turn.
HIW says: I agree that Chase sucks, but ALL the majors suck and are derivative heavy. Make no mistakes, if one goes…they ALL go.
Trade out to small CU’s and Private Banks that are solid quickly. Get into Real Estate and Metals.
Ben says: Well said, HIW. Same goes for Travelex, and the receipts from them. Aren’t they known to be a reputable organization?
Matala says: My Vietnamese Dong transactions have gone through Treasury Vault. They do provide purchase certification and I’ve acquired the money through the mail. Has anyone else dealt with TV?
All my Dong are 500K denomination. I have had an account at Wells Fargo for decades along with a mortgage through a local private State Bank. Does anyone seem to think I have a precarious position going with a currency revaluation?
Ben says: I’d say that if one believes that Vietnam has gone for about 40 years using the rate that shows now, they are only kidding themselves. Most all govt organizations carry two sets of books, one for us and one for them (CAFR). At 21,000 dongs to the dollar that country would have gone under long ago.
LP says: Wow. Chase didn’t do any of that for me. I had to ask for a receipt and they have me something that looked like a receipt for groceries.
They did however invite me to a conference with four private bankers the following Monday, who provided me with several personalized “investment opportunity” booklets and assured me that they would call me when they had the heads-up.
Apparently, they had a short list of people like me who were waiting to hear about the RV. At my Chase, they took it quite seriously. But my bank invests in movies LOL, and how smart is that?
Martin says: For Canadians this is important:
Credit Unions & Non Major Banks: often partner with banks for foreign exchange and therefore has a slightly less favorable rate.
Major Banks of Canada
Canada has a variety of financial institutions. However, there are five which dominate the domestic banking industry. Branches of the “Big 5″ banks will often be found in many cities from coast to coast.
Many have switched to shorter names, but are sometimes referred to by their older names: RBC (Royal Bank of Canada), TD Canada Trust (Toronto-Dominion), Scotiabank (Bank of Nova Scotia), BMO (Bank of Montreal), and CIBC (Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce).
As of 2014, in total there are 29 domestic Banks in Canada , 24 foreign bank subsidiaries, and 27 full service foreign branches, and 3 foreign bank lending branches. Regards Martin
BMO doesn’t deal with the Dong. I have asked at 2 different locations including the main branch in our metro. They may add it, but as of now, they don’t deal with it.
Peter says: Interesting I have bought all my vietnamese dong with BMO with receipts.
HIW says: Really…That’s Interesting. Are you in Canada at BMO or in the states at BMO Harris?
I’m in the states at BMO Harris and they have told me twice. I need to get their facts straight if you are buying from them.
Peter says: I bought all my dong in Canada .
Mary Ann says: I couldn’t stand it any more and I googled a bit.
Not to defame anyone, but I think the phrase “maah lick” might mean “my easy to come by money.”
“Maah” is some people’s idea of how uneducated people pronounce “my.”
I found an obscure definition of “lick” in an urban dictionary:
1. Somebody who is easy to rob, or get money from.
2. An illegal way to get money easily, like robbin, hustlin, or sellin dope.
1. “Yo, he got robbed like 7 times dis week”, “I know bruh hes Deerfields biggest lickforreal.”
2. Yo I need like 200 bucks, imma go head n bust some licks for it.
LP says: I think that’s “bus some LIPS fo it.”
Gazza says: What’s all this talk of references? How do you get a reference and from whom and saying what? That makes no sense to me. Why would a bank care about a reference if you take some dong in?
Also, what is all the stuff about $500k notes being illegal laundered etc? My notes aren’t any such thing!! Nor are anybody’s on here I guess!! What is owon talking about???!
whitehatauxiliaries says: Feel free to visit them and ask, I am sure they will reply.
HIW says: Here is a sample of a bank reference letter I have used. Edit for your needs and email to your bank branch manager so they can sign and put on their letterhead.
To whom it may concern,
At the request of our clients, XXXXXXX, we are pleased to state that they currently maintain 2 business accounts, 2 personal accounts and 1 trust account with our private bank.
XXXXXXX have been valued clients of ours for over XXXXX years now and have maintained balances in the various accounts during this time in the low four-figure range to the mid six-figure range.
They are well known to us and their accounts have always been held in high standing with our bank.
Please let us know if we can be of further assistance. Sincerely,
Gazza says: HIW Ahhh ok. Thanks for sending that. I get it now ha ha! Thanks again!
Tony Are you doing much personally regarding the note size issue? Or is it too personal to ask about the size of your dong? Thank you!
whitehatauxiliaries says: I have always been secure in that regard. I am ready to rock and roll. 38 years with my bank, plus setting up my due diligence has me sleeping like a baby with respect to exchange anxiety.
My personal feeling – just have the paperwork and your credentials and a good relationship with a major bank, and you will not have anything to worry about except the rate outcome.
That part is out of our hands 100%. The rest is up to you to organize, and that should be something a schoolboy could do in 5 minutes flat. I have 100K notes.
ibelievemedia says: I have a long-standing relationship with my bank, both personal and business. But it’s Bank of America, and at least at this point they do not trade in the Dong. My hope is that will change if and when that currency revalues.
Paul L Davis says: For those who are interested, a new Jim Willie interview
P says: Should we be worried that OWoN continues to confuse your and you’re?
whitehatauxiliaries says: No confusion here. I want my lick.
HKmarkets says: Latest from OWoN: Updates to help many still confused.
1. Money is finite and once the currency conversions start for the Dongs, Dinars etc, system overload will quickly be achieved. Banks being Banks, will act by knee jerk policies.
2. Dongs should be OK as long as hidden overprinting or counterfeit is not involved. Dodgy people are attracted to paper games. All evolves around the rate. What is on your side, is that the Big Battalions are looking for big hits. Those who move fast should get converted quickly as suggested. Once
the system reaches its liquidity needs, Banks will not overstock at the own risk. OWON and WHA should be first in the queue and out. The brighter parties tend to congregate there. Some humour is tongue in cheek, take it as just fun looking at the parties we do see on some blogs.
3.Dinars are a whole different ball game. Mountains of trouble waiting for many. Also overprinted a hundred times more than Iraq needs. The world is not going to bail proceeds of crime. The Big battalions will get paid, many others will get laid, face down. Hog tied.
4, Bank Compliance seems to specialise in hiring a special kind of stupid. Any deviation in accounts or sudden interjections of big money will flag up.
That is when for no good reason,the anal by products from Palookerville, now employed in Compliance, with no warning, discussion or reason, will just close your account. Negative little ** out of control run riot and no one muzzles them.
In Banking, any unusual movement is enough to have your account closed, or money blocked. Banking has changed. Not for the better. We are just trying to help you avoid the problems.
5.Rates are still subjective so it will be interesting to see final profiles and tiers as they emerge. Be sure, for many in Dinar land it will end in tears.
6. Those able to get in and get paid asap once it starts, by having an orderly presentation ready, it will save you a lot of grief with Banks. Also you will be in and done before the Bongo land Grunts catch on and start hitting the banks. Once that happens, chaos will rule and banks will contain it rapidly.
Most will fail a KYC check and banks wont want to open an account for them. With Dinars, road kill will be walking in clutching notes looking to be paid. Never mind Elm Street, it will become a nightmare on every street in Banking.
Seriously though, in and out fast then PLEASE, this is your one big chance, do NOTHING with your money bar pay off your debts, cards etc. Take your time , for Gods sake do that.
Decide with care and thought what kind of life you now want with an option. Some may chose to offload baggage and start again. In which case shelter that cash fast. Move it again.
Banking is going through hard patch. Spread your asset risk. Metals., multi currencies, and Foreign investments for safety. Do NOT get sucked into businesses you don’t have experience of. Nothing is as it seems.
For all – Good luck and – Avoid the T shirt. We hope good things break for all of you.
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sitkaevenstar says: hi matala i also bought through T.V. 500k notes with de la rue verification that they are real good luck.
sitkaevenstar says: do not want to beat a dead horse. will OWON OR WH give 48 hours notice before the rv as we have 48 hours to get to a bank . as I’m in mexico and have to fly to seattle . any wisdom would be great
whitehatauxiliaries says: We have been told that we will get about 48 hours notice before the public. When we do, you will see it posted here as a new article. You can then act as you feel is best for your situation.
Seg says: WHA, London just wished us good luck…..
whitehatauxiliaries says: Yes…they do that from time to time. Don’t take that as 48 hour notice.
I am sure they will be very open about that.