Actually if you think about it it is more likely to suspend an old customer as they would have a reason to say “this is out of the ordinary for this person” whereas a new person may be wealthy before the rv for all they know.
As long as you can prove the notes are good faith legit and they have no reason to think you are a drug dealer or money launderer I think the relationship thing is a bit far fetched. Conpliance will query it, find nothing wrong and release it however long you have been acustomer. Anyone else agree? whitehatauxiliaries says:
I would not worry about things that are out of your control. We are all here in present time and the only thing we can do is hang on and hit the banks when we are given the high sign.
We cannot control what banks will ask or require in the future. Whatever track record you have with a bank will have to hopefully do.
We still do not know timing, rates or exact procedures. Just be ready for anything.
That’s all we as individuals can do. By now we know what basics are required for as smooth a process as possible. The rest is out of our hands, so let’s not cook rabbits that have not been caught. LP says:
Gazza, I strongly disagree, for your sake. I know a man in the Midwest who has NOTHING, is picking fruit to support his child after his wife died at 29.
His account was overdrawn and closed, his balance never exceeded $160, and even he fixed things up at his bank, made it right, paid off his fees and opened a second new account to be clean, clear and as ready as he can be. Just go do it or you may regret even more than you do now. (Are you just trying to take the Mickey out of us all? ) Gazza says:
LP Sad story, and I have opened a new account it is all I can do. Not taking the Mickey out of anyone (not sure why u said that??). Anyway, thanks for replying stocked says:
Has anyone heard anything more on CMKX payout? whitehatauxiliaries says:
No word of payment to shareholders has been reported to us. LP says:
Oct 26th had by far the funniest commentary. I’m happy to see the humorous flurries. OWoN was really colorful too and it’s great to see their commentary taken in good cheer. It’s been cheek and now I sleep. JBloss says:
I’m glad recaps was posting you…or I would not have found you in the first place. whitehatauxiliaries says:
Hello, I am glad you are here. Stay tuned and enjoy! Paul L Davis says:
Hi P, From my perception and interpretations of Gazza’s comments for a while now is he/she is currently deeply into whining. As the vibration of this group/collective that all of us regulars readers here at this site are on an energetic level will have an effect on Gazza.
If most, and I think it is most by now, do not react to the whining and verbalization of victim consciousness coming from Gazza he/she will eventually just leave quietly, or will change and rise in vibration and leave the whining and victim consciousness behind. I was once involved in organization of intentional communities called the Emissaries of Divine Light.
Their attitude was; if you can handle the vibration you were welcome to stay. No memberships.
I remember one experience at their 100 Mile House BC, Canada. I was watching an evening presentation of talks by the students who had spent a summer at other Emissary community somewhere in the world.
I was sitting high, in the back, in the movie theater type room that could sit a couple of hundred at least, and started noticing the auric fields in the room. It was a veritable light show, something brand new to me. I was enthralled and in awe for an hour.
After the meeting I found a small group and told them of my experience. There response was quick and curt, as I was obviously in an excited ego state, one of them said ” oh, that; don’t get caught up in it; say thanks and let it go”. Then they all turned and walked away from me.
I soon learned that if I spoke from my heart they listened. If I spoke from ego they were not interested in my company in the least. After a few days I just had to leave as the stress and tension became overwhelming; I left. [ now I understand I was simply not ready to change] and the energy was too much for me to handle.
I suggest we allow Gazza the freedom to be present here. If we are reactive we need to know there is a gift for us to find. When it does not matter anymore, to us personally, we will know we have recognize and received the gift. I am sure if anyone becomes unruly and stupid in their comments they will be terminated. Just my thoughts about it.:-) PD
In my opinion we need to continue to make room for Gazza. We are all free not to read their comments if we do not want to. LoveWins says:
I completely agree with you, PD. I have taken that freedom to skip her messages after the first few times she took her vocabulary out for a walk beating the air. I pass with a “bless that troubled soul Lord, and wake her to the truth that YOU and YOU alone are totally in control and teach her to trust in Your Love that never fails!”
This site has so many amazingly deep thinkers and wonderful souls that I wish I could meet personally, men and women both. Oh my goodness. What fun! But I don’t think I’ve ever been in the presence of so many truly gifted and wonderful men as I have in Tony’s WHA. Though OWoN ain’t too shabby either!
Must be the leadership that attracts such in both sites. Mil thanks to you all. Times they are a changin’ and they be changin’ in our favor regardless of the bumps and groans! Gloria Madison says:
You know, Gazza doesn’t hurt anyone. And if you reread FC 115 it’s about helping our fellow man, and paying forward , but no where in that FC 115 does it say our ” riches and wealth” have to be monetary.
Sometimes, people just need a shoulder to lean on, cry on, or an ear to listen to them voice their concerns, fears.. etc. and we as a collective group should be here for each other and that includes Gazza, to offer emotional support, encouragement and lift up.
If we turn away Gazza, wouldn’t it cause the White Hats and those that are reading this blog to wonder what our intentions are if we aren’t doing what we can to help our fellow man now? I vote to keep Gazza, I am rather fond of the chap! mygirl56 says:
Eloquently said, all. Kudos. Green Lantern says:
Since some of the conversation is leaning towards PMs, I thought I would post a few recent links and why the acquisition of them is not a bad option. What I would suggest though, on and beyond what the GCR will do to the monetary landscape, is to stay centered on what will get your family and yourself through the coming storm. Life is more than a single GCR moment.
Having the mindset of Noah is not a bad thing to consider, being he was the original and ultimate prepper. Externally, there’s little we can do. But as remnants, there’s going to be plenty of work to attend to.
Meanwhile, what I do enjoy about this forum is that people are actually thinking and thinking outside of the box. Wow! How revolutionary! I’m a sideline watcher with the whole VND and other fiat currency situations.
Time is going to tell how this whole thing is going to shake out. But until then, remain diligent, vigilant, and keep the faith. We didn’t get to this point in a single day and it’s going to be the same in getting out of this mess. One minute and breath at a time, please! God sees everything. That is the basis of my confidence. http://www.thedailysheeple.com/a-storm-of-global-events-is-threatening-to-push-gold-and-silver-to-record-highs_102014 http://www.pakalertpress.com/2014/10/16/top-4-things-to-do-prior-to-the-dollar-collapsing/ http://www.silverdoctors.com/jim-willie-shanghai-shock-to-shatter-the-gold-market/ http://srsroccoreport.com/srsrocco-interview-the-coming-collapse-of-the-global-paper-ponzi-scheme/srsrocco-interview-the-coming-collapse-of-the-global-paper-ponzi-scheme/ Tammy says:
Green Lantern: Thank you for posting these links- good information! Green Lantern says:
Bows humbly. LP says:
Gazza, that’s fantastic. Good for you. When I said that about “taking the Mickey,” what I meant I was wondering whether you were just being playful and pretending that you couldn’t get an account. Anyway, glad you got one! I’m sure it’s a better feeling to be as prepared as possible. Things are looking up!! NausArathi says:
Personally, I feel that the backlash against Gazza is extremely unwarranted. I have noticed quite a few comments over the weeks/months directed towards him in both condescending and negative terms.
Now, we can all agree that Gazza does not always have the most positive outlook on things. However, I find his observations into things to be both genuine and within integrity, and I welcome his opinion and stand by him as a brother of this community.
Gazza is a valuable part of the family that has grown here, and as our brother, we should continue to welcome him and support him accordingly. For those of you who feel that he should be exiled, I say, “Grow the #$*@ up.”
Take a look within yourselves, instead of always pointing the finger elsewhere.
If a little bit of negativity & skepticism is enough to knock you down, perhaps you need to toughen up your own roots a bit.
I appreciate Gazza and his sincere contributions to this community, even if I do not always agree. I stand by him. And, for those of you who want him gone, I ask you to look within yourselves – perhaps you are the one with the problem. whitehatauxiliaries says:
Hello, Just so we are clear, I would never let a free-wheeling backlash continue against someone who did not warrant it. However, I do let people work out their differences on their own, and thus I will allow discussion to take place to hopefully achieve that end. But, there is a limit. I hope you all conclude your Gazza inquisition before it is reached. Rock on…. NausArathi says:
Thank you – I personally do not have any inquisition in this matter, nor any desire to continue on with any sort of discussion in regards to it. The open calling for exile of a community member deserved a response, and I have said my piece. Thank you as always for keeping this whole thing together… whitehatauxiliaries says:
I agree…. Time for some meditation and cleansing of the way…. Take it away, Sarah……. LL says:
Well put NA. Agreed. Rgds, sprackle says:
The only way to get comments through email is to make a comment yourself and click the radio button. This needs to be done every time the original post changes.
This is by far the easiest way to get comments IMHO. The only downside is you never get a copy of your own comments. If somebody keeps test posting, that may be the problem. The test post will fail every time for the poster, but everybody else gets it.
And kudos to Gazza for realism and honesty. Much better than smoking hope-ium. whitehatauxiliaries says:
The RSS feed is best for comments. They work very well. And, they run chronoligical so ALL comments are delivered in order and readable. Please see the RSS feed procedures for your browser.
Firefox RSS sucks. IE is better. Opera email browser is what I use and is the best thing I have ever used for feeds. Opera browser alone does not have a feed capability any more. Tammy says:
Let’s change the subject as Tony suggested!
I think it would be a good idea to obtain a personal reference from a current employer, or church minister. This would be in addition to a bank letter of reference as suggested in this dialogue. HKmarkets says:
I hear you and many Americans. Few people understand how bad things have got in America.
But few in America understand how much worse it’s going to get. Much, much much worse.
The dollar will drop c35% in value. Imports will rocket in price. Taxes will go up and Gas will be taxed as in Europe at c $12 a gallon. They will take in every way they can.
If Dongs get a good recovery rate, it buys you time. But that’s all. Even if after taxes you end up with say $2M, invested at current market yields, banks will pay you nothing, and cross spreading may make you c3% with risks of Capital losses, so even that, after both Corporate Taxes and Income Taxes, wont leave much.
Money will depreciate as the cost of living shoots up, so, in your case, it can only be a stop gap and bridge to find a real angle to use part of it to trade for a profit.
Secure a home, a second hand car and take your time to test markets. If people lose the lot its then game over. And be sure c 60% are going to lose the lot.
For those ending up with only a few hundred thousand after taxes, most will spend like lunatics, because they want, and then it will be game over. At least , even with a few hundred K, it gives you time to test trading. Risk no more than 10% on any deal.
Reality check on bills, switch off the damned heating and wear warmer clothes as your ancestors did. Reduce electricity use as those bills are going to climb. If you don’t, they will cut you off once bills default.
Until you find an angle to work for money, there is no easy way out. As will be the case for ever more people. Put simply, without the Dongs, God will not help many.
So, despite all your understandable worries, you, yourself, HAVE found an angle of real hope and YOU did that. As you will again once you get a kick start. You read and contribute here.
Which means you ARE a thinking American, Frustrated at what is and challenging it. Things are coming, and those with the right Dong in their hands, hopefully will get a leg up the greasy survival pole fast.
Think and realise, you are seeking self help. What about the Dumbos only squealing for Welfare bucks for ever. They have real problems coming because that is time dated. Soon, their tickets to ride will be reviewed. Hard. Reality is trucking down on them. No one is owed. No one.
So the Dongs are only a stop gap of help and finding that new angle is the key, so stay focused. You will survive. Just forget about rights to keep heating on. Its no right and eats money.
People are going to get the mother of all wake up calls Stateside soon when the dollar tanks. What then as all prices will be hit. The dollar based on worthless hype, is being called out.
BRICS, the Yuan, Euro etc all now seek to feed their greed and all are in need. The food bowl is shrinking. Soon a guy with $7 bucks will be rich. Well for 12 seconds anyway. DL, hope for you is coming. Many don’t have that.
Read more at: http://www.oneworldofnations.com/2014/10/what-heavens-really-like-by-leading.html?showComment=1414399260107#c6995577570440675667
OWoN © All Rights Reserved whitehatauxiliaries says:
Wow. That’s some serious confirmation of what is coming for a lot of the dinar “investment” pumpers.
One thing I was discussing with someone last week concerned the fallout from a flash-in-the-pan dinar result. Imagine the rate comes out at .10 and only lasts for a few days. What will the gurus say? “Wait…..it will go higher!” Then, boom…..down to a penny, or perhaps a little more. I don’t know…just speculation on my part.
What will become of these people? Who will they blame? Will they descend on the banks and cause a riot? Violence?
All these overtones and harmonics of possibilities point to the intelligence of acting quickly. We were told to be fast a while ago. It still holds true for now.
I am really seeing the wisdom of that strategy. There are many reasons for it. Catching the right rate in prime time may be just one reason. There might be some other reasons that are akin to personal safety issues that may come into play. I don’t know. But, it’s always the unknown that gets you in the end.
Caesar, Napoleon, RE Lee, Patton, Montgomery, etc., achieved success on the battlefield because they knew what they were up against before they struck, and made plans accordingly.
Remember that, and don’t discount the possible crowd issues that might meet the latecomers. That’s my thinking. LP says:
Agree Gazza is not only endurable, he is essential. Not going to elaborate on why.
Hi all… errr…. just caught up with the recent comments on here. Feel flattered for the attention… wasn’t seeking it. For the millionth time I am a male lol.
To set it straight, nothing great ever happens to me. I have really tried through my life and I have job applications going through right now for jobs I really need. I am not a victim of seriously bad things like some poor folk but my life is very miserable. I need to get away from here and without money I just can’t.
I really need this rv to give me a return so I can finally get on that first rung on the life ladder after all these years. If not, there won’t be many more opportunities. I need something!!
My negativity is more like anxiety if I am honest. I’m anxious I miss out on this chance. I already have plans in place to do charity work for poor people once I can afford to make a difference. Honest!
I will help myself and help the poor if I can make a few quid from this. But I gotta get away from here too. I’m desperate. I am one of life’s losers yes – but I want to turn that around. But whether we like it or not, that takes a little injection of cash. One chance, that’s all I ask. I can then become worthwhile.
I never want to shoot anyone’s dreams on here – my (sometimes panicked) questions are asked becoz i need reassurance from better people. That’s YOU! I rely on you for info in all this.
That’s why I comment and ask so much. I need this chance. It’s more than a punt for me. Just the other day certain people on here answered me and really helped me and I told them so. That’s what this forum is for me… plus I have got to like you all on here too.
My voice wouldn’t sound like my typing but something is always lost in text. I do believe this rv will happen soon but I am very dubious about the final rate for us regular folk. That said, I stand by you all and stand with dong too and I want everyone on here to have a happy story to tell when this is all over.
So please, next time you think I’m being an asshole, I’m just reaching out in quite direct questions to an audience who I know can help me with my anxieties and lack of knowledge on these matters.
Thank you all! Especially all who rallied to my defence too.. cheered me up!
Martin says: Gazza Probably 50% of the great people like yourself on this board feel somewhat like you and your situation but are not open or honest enough to admit what you have admitted. My white hat off to you and hope it works as well for you as for everyone else. Regards Martin
Gazza says: Thanks mate!
whitehatauxiliaries says: Don’t worry about status here. It’s pretty hard to be banned. Some have achieved that, but only after really working on it.
Bjork would attack me at an airport before most would get the boot.
Vicxster says: Dear Gazza My life story sounds like yours-except for one thing; I’ve since raised my vibrations and have chosen another frequency. I know that sounds bizarre, so let me explain.
I have had many bad things happen to me, and I used to dwell on the past- people, mistakes, etc. I have been on meds for anxiety and depression for almost 20 years; it has been a very bumpy ride for a long time.
When I realized that we can pick what frequency to tune in to (just like the radio) we then change our vibration to receive it; my aha moment, you might say. Stop the mantras of the past for yourself – a purge of your mind. You are not that person today.
Pick a new station, bud, and sing a new song with joy. It can make all the difference, it has for me and I am SO MUCH happier- truly ( and I was highly doubtful it would make a difference) all the best Vixster
mike says: Lordy, what a ride that is store for us all.